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| ClayPerrine |
 Mar 27 2018, 07:04 PM
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Life's been good to me so far.....  Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille 
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QUOTE(partsguy22 @ Mar 27 2018, 10:07 AM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I am enabling Clays bad ideas in the form of making his parts for this bad idea One hardened 4140 964 flywheel spacer ready Aaron, Now that you posted on 914world, you need to own a 914! Why didn't you call and let me know it was ready? |
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| ClayPerrine |
Mar 27 2018, 07:05 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 27 2018, 06:16 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ... Great now I need one of these too.. hurry up Clay give it a test. Still have to make the pilot bearing spacer. Once I get that, I can put together the clutch and then make the starter adapter. Are you going to put a boxster trans in your 914???? |
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| ConeDodger |
Mar 27 2018, 08:43 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,574 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(theleschyouknow @ Mar 18 2016, 02:13 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) sweet glad you found one! let me know if you ever need a hand I'm not much of a wrench but I can follow directions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) cjl Great! Someone who can follow directions! Ok, so stand by the door and watch for the guy that owns this motor! We’ve got to get installed quick! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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| whitetwinturbo |
Mar 30 2018, 10:30 AM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
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| Luke M |
Mar 30 2018, 04:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 27 2018, 06:05 PM) QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 27 2018, 06:16 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ... Great now I need one of these too.. hurry up Clay give it a test. Still have to make the pilot bearing spacer. Once I get that, I can put together the clutch and then make the starter adapter. Are you going to put a boxster trans in your 914???? Yes, I would like to stuff a Boxster trans in the next 914 that I build. Maybe my brothers car once his 901 goes south. Any plans to mass produce or forward things to have someone else make a kit for you ? |
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| ClayPerrine |
Mar 30 2018, 09:01 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 30 2018, 05:02 PM) QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 27 2018, 06:05 PM) QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 27 2018, 06:16 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) ... Great now I need one of these too.. hurry up Clay give it a test. Still have to make the pilot bearing spacer. Once I get that, I can put together the clutch and then make the starter adapter. Are you going to put a boxster trans in your 914???? Yes, I would like to stuff a Boxster trans in the next 914 that I build. Maybe my brothers car once his 901 goes south. Any plans to mass produce or forward things to have someone else make a kit for you ? This is the kit development. Slow, but moving in the right direction. |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jun 6 2018, 12:40 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I am spending the day in the garage test fitting clutch parts.
Here are some pictures for you.       There is no clutch disk in it, and we still have to make an adapter to center the pressure plate on the flywheel. That's why there is a gap between the pressure plate and the flywheel. But it is coming along nicely!! |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jun 6 2018, 03:51 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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More pictures.
     First picture looks through the starter hole at the DME sensor. If the sensor fails, just pull the starter and the adapter block. Last picture shows starter fitted. Once I fitted the starter, I realized that the starter adapter was setup before I realized I had to move the flywheel back 13mm. So now I have to make the starter block 13mm longer to move the starter rearward. Tomorrow I will be making starter adapter plates from 6061-T6 aluminum. I have to make 11 to be the correct distance. Stay tuned for further updates. |
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| aharder |
Jun 6 2018, 04:36 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,380 Joined: 6-September 11 From: Dallas Texas Member No.: 13,524 Region Association: Southwest Region
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Nice work !!
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| Steve |
Jun 6 2018, 04:52 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,570 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California
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| 76-914 |
Jun 6 2018, 05:03 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,494 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Nice work Clay. I was going to give you "the business" about taking so long but I know things take 10x longer when you also play the role of fabricator/engineer. Should be a beast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| ClayPerrine |
Jun 7 2018, 08:04 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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An update from today.
Found I had an issue with the starter. Seems the bolt pattern for the starter overlaps the bolt that holds the starter adapter to the trans/motor. So something had to give. I have to use a gear drive starter, so I just made a new mounting plate for the starter with the hole in the correct location for the trans/motor bolt already there. Took me all day to figure that one out. But in the end I spun the engine with the starter, so now I can confirm the starter will work. Next up.. continue turning plate aluminum into multiple starter spacers with a drill press and a hole saw. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 18 2019, 07:11 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I got the pressure plate spacer prototype back from the machinist yesterday. I assembled the whole clutch and put it in the press to verify functionality. I have about 2mm gap between the pressure plate and the clutch disk when it is compressed, and it locks tight when the pressure plate is not compressed.
Some pictures of the clutch assembly for you.     Tonight after work I am going to get it fitted to the motor, and hook up the transmission. Then I get to figure out the size of the spacer for the throwout arm, and the starter block thickness. Development of stuff like this always takes lots of time. I am moving forward, slowly, but forward progress is being made. |
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| rick 918-S |
Jan 19 2019, 08:34 PM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region 
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| bandjoey |
Jan 19 2019, 09:08 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,923 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So it's gonna look like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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| Larmo63 |
Jan 19 2019, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 6 2018, 10:40 AM) I am spending the day in the garage test fitting clutch parts. Here are some pictures for you. There is no clutch disk in it, and we still have to make an adapter to center the pressure plate on the flywheel. That's why there is a gap between the pressure plate and the flywheel. But it is coming along nicely!! All of that fits in a 914 Porsche? Dang. |
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| mepstein |
Jan 19 2019, 09:39 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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A fully dressed four engine & trans weighs 350lbs.
The 964 engine weighs ~525 fully dressed and the boxter trans weighs ~150 with starter. So +325lbs, +/- for the conversion. *all weights are approximate. |
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| Rob-O |
Jan 19 2019, 11:41 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 5-December 03 From: Mansfield, TX Member No.: 1,419 Region Association: Southwest Region
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QUOTE(bandjoey @ Jan 19 2019, 07:08 PM) Except with a Porsche 6 cylinder, without 300 pounds of steel square tubing and without the Frankenstein rear fenders. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) But other than that, EXACTLY like this car... |
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| ClayPerrine |
Jan 20 2019, 01:58 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,430 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 19 2019, 09:39 PM) A fully dressed four engine & trans weighs 350lbs. The 964 engine weighs ~525 fully dressed and the boxter trans weighs ~150 with starter. So +325lbs, +/- for the conversion. *all weights are approximate. But... HP output of a 914/4 is approximately 100 to 130 depending on build. HP output of the 4.0 engine I have is approximately 425 to 430. So, I am giving up 325 lbs for 300 HP... sounds like a good trade to me! |
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| mepstein |
Jan 20 2019, 02:13 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,253 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 20 2019, 02:58 PM) QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 19 2019, 09:39 PM) A fully dressed four engine & trans weighs 350lbs. The 964 engine weighs ~525 fully dressed and the boxter trans weighs ~150 with starter. So +325lbs, +/- for the conversion. *all weights are approximate. But... HP output of a 914/4 is approximately 100 to 130 depending on build. HP output of the 4.0 engine I have is approximately 425 to 430. So, I am giving up 325 lbs for 300 HP... sounds like a good trade to me! I love the HP jump. I've driven small block chevy conversions and didn't like them so I'm always concerned about extra weight. Granted, our cars put the weight in the right place and proper suspension setup can make a huge difference. Your car should be an E ticket ride for sure. |
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